Episode 2: Second Base & The Starbucks Struggle

The Hook: Welcome to Episode 2! Trav and Mike have officially made it to "second base" in their podcast relationship. They survived the premiere, and now they are debating the real questions: What would our Madden rating be as fathers? And how old is too old to drop a kid off at the fire station?   

The Hangout: The basement vibes are strong as Mike rants about his ultimate Wichita struggle: trying to find a standalone Starbucks and refusing to walk inside a Dillons for coffee. Meanwhile, Trav's Dell computer keeps shutting down, fueling Mike's Mac superiority complex. The guys also break down their Marvel Snap strategies and debate if "size matters" when it comes to your deck.   

The History: In Nerd News, we are looking back at the 1995 test samples of the PowerPC microprocessor, a time when 66MHz was considered fast. We also cover the 2002 Immersion lawsuit where Microsoft and Sony got sued over stealing force feedback "rumble" technology. Plus, a look back at the 2003 release of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 for the Xbox.   

The Hilarity: Things go off the rails when they start discussing the Jetsons' terrifying accuracy regarding modern telehealth and robot vacuums. They specifically note the horror of when a robot vacuum meets a dog accident and smears it everywhere. Plus, Trav explores some classic gaming conspiracies, like whether you can actually jump the flagpole in level 1 of the original Super Mario Bros.   

Full Transcript

Speaker: We're back. We did it. We didn't quit. Happy anniversary. Yes! Valentine's Day is coming up. Boom! We had tens of people listening last time. Yeah. Um. Second episode. Second base in our relationship. Yes. We got this. Yeah. That's. You know, I don't know what that means. It's been a long time. I have not had to try to get to second base. Like, I don't even know what that would mean anymore. Quick Google search, I guess, I don't know. Maybe somebody. Somebody let us know. Yeah. This week, what second base means. Just, uh, be cool about it. Yeah. Like, you know, suddenly you're like, yeah, whatever. Um, yeah. I mean, last week was fun. Yeah. Dante on there. That was pretty cool. Super cool. Good start to a podcast, I guess. Yeah. I mean, downhill from here. I think we said it was going to be uphill, but I think it's probably going to be downhill.

Yeah, I don't see I do have some cool guests though lined up already. We're not going to do it like every week, but maybe once a month something like that. Yeah. So we've got some cool ones. We have been testing out some gameplay stuff, trying to figure that out. So not maybe not going well. So if you were tech savvy, if you're that's me, I'll say if you're an I.T. director or something like that, maybe hit us up and we'll figure it out. I figured it out for me and we'll figure it out for you. Yeah. Now you just figure out your internet so we're not, you know, lagging constantly. Then we'll be all right. I mean, this town's internet is just not awesome. And, you know, we tried the other guys and. Yeah, couldn't get that to work either. We'll just leave names out of it that way. I'm like, oh, who do you use? Like, don't worry about it. Yeah. It's okay. Just internet.

Um, yeah. So we've got, uh, no guest this week. So it's just us just, you know, just a cartridge and a quest. Is that. No, that's not right. Foodie Mike. See? There you go. And just your average trav here. Typical. Trav. Yep. Tippi. Travel. Uh, so we're going to start off with a little bit of nerd news. That sounds real exciting. Is that crispy and awesome? Yeah. Uh, it could be exciting if you're a nerd. Let's find out. Do we have any nerds? I don't know. We'll see. But the first one's real nerdy. Okay. Uh, I'm a computer guy, so it's going to be. It's computer based. Uh, IBM and Motorola announced that test samples have been made of PowerPC one hundred megahertz and sixty six megahertz microprocessors. Do you do you even know what a microprocessor is, sir? It sounds small. Yes. Uh, comparison. That was in nineteen ninety five, on this day in history. That is the little thing in the chip inside of your computer that makes it go. That makes it fast. Makes it slow. Uh, compared sixty six megahertz back then. Now the newest chips are three thousand eight hundred megahertz. So we've come a long way.

You know what freaks me out? I don't even know what this is in the same realm, but in my mind, it is this new, like, I don't know if it's a processor or a chip or whatever, and it says that it will do like calculations, like so much faster than like standard computers. You did it. Is that like what it is? Yeah, I want that thing because that thing is going to have us talking to like God and aliens and shit. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I don't think computers can talk to aliens, but sounds creepy because they're so much smarter than us already. Yeah, but how did we make this thing? If if this thing is so, so much smarter than us? Like, how did we make it, I don't know. MM. Yeah. Good question for the aliens. If we ever talk to our next guest. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Here he is. Uh. Green guy. Turns out his hobby is selling oranges. Stop! Don't do that. Quit that. Wait a second. That's good. That's getting. That's getting. Not in Trump's America. No. Yeah. Oh, I'm so sorry.

All right. So a little bit of a little bit more nerd news. This is gaming. Uh, since we're, uh, kind of a gaming podcast, we kind of started out as a sports podcast, then transitioned to gaming and we're going to be all over the place. So just enjoy the ride. Okay. Sounds good. You know, put it on two times speed. It'll be fifteen, twenty minutes every week. You'll be fine. It'll buff out. Yeah, it'll be good. Um, immersion. Nobody knows them anymore. Mhm. Uh, they filed a lawsuit against Microsoft and Sony in two thousand and two, uh, for the rights to joystick force feedback technology in controllers. So, like rumble in your in your Xbox controller. Yeah, these guys thought of it first. And Xbox and PlayStation are like, oh, we like that. We're going to steal it. And, uh, they both ended up paying to use the tech. Um, twenty million for Microsoft and ninety seven million from Sony. So they just didn't like Sony. Sony kind of got hammered on that one. They got screwed on that one.

Um, Capcom released Marvel and Capcom two, the video game for Xbox in two thousand and three. Mhm. How much do you think that cost back then? I was sixteen, so in those dollars. Whoa. We graduated in two thousand and three, bro. You weren't sixteen. I graduated at seventeen. You're not a very good friend. Wow. Um, I have no idea. I, I don't know, I assume like a pizza, a pizza. So how much was a pizza in two thousand and three then? I don't know, pizza in a tank of gas. Let's do that. Jeez. We'll do the math on that later. We'll figure it out. Oh, man. Okay, so games today are, what, sixty, seventy bucks if you just go buy one? Yeah, this one was forty. So I guess that's, I don't know, inflation game. Inflation's like not as good as market inflation or I don't know. I don't know. That's fine.

Anyway, the video goes on and then the last one is in two thousand and eight, Microsoft Game Studio released Lost Odyssey. I never played this, but in my research about this much. Okay. It's like Final Fantasy. So, um, a lot of people like that game. I know I like Final Fantasy. Mhm. So I played seven all the time. Oh yeah. Not one, two, three four and five and six. No. Mhm. Huh. I just know seven right in the middle. Sephiroth and the what are they called like chocobos or something like that. And I'm the nerd. Get out of here. Those were fun. You get to, like, race them and stuff, get like the gold one. And it was just blowing people out of the water. Yeah, that was for Xbox three hundred sixty. So two thousand and eight, man. Yeah. So that's the nerd news for this week, folks. Please tell me you're still awake. Super exciting.

Um, so initially when we talked about this, we didn't know what kind of gaming we're even going to talk about if it's, you know, straight up console gaming, whatever. But, um, one thing I have been playing a lot of is Marvel snap. I don't know if any of you guys are playing that. And I feel like on that one. Yeah, I was really late into the game because I remember telling my buddy like, oh, this game's fun, you should play it. And he's like, dude, I've been playing that for like, yeah. So I'm sure like everybody had found it and like already ditched it before I even found it. But, um, a lot of people that play. Yeah, it's, it's pretty fun. And I feel like it's, it's similar to like clash Royale and things like that in the sense that like you kind of get your own strategy set up. But once you do that, it's like, it's just kind of it is what it is. Like they have different game modes that'll pop up and, um, I don't know. So I, I feel like I'm still enjoying it, but it also kind of gets to the point where it's like, well, this is kind of the same thing. Yeah. So I feel that same way. It's like, okay, I, I either win or lose and I'm not really getting a whole lot of new stuff. I like don't new cards don't really make sense? Yeah. It's like once you have your deck established, it's like, do I want to try to add this?

One thing I will say though, that is kind of fun, but kind of like super frustrating as well, is the fact that it has like these three little, um, like worlds essentially that you're playing the cards on. Yep. And one world could just totally throw you for a loop for sure. This world could pop up when you already have cards on it. It's like, yeah, all these cards are negative or get blown up or whatever. And then all of a sudden your points are gone or backwards, or somebody lays down a card that doubles and undoes everything that you have. And it's like, I like got dead to rights and he just murdered. I like to use storm when there's a like when he's beat, when somebody beat me because then it just destroys whatever was happening there. And she's just like, she washes it away and she's done after turn four. That's true. But you use like the loser cards that like are like damaging and poisoning, like the other cards and I don't know, loser cards. I mean, we could go through our decks if you want. We can, we could I, I have we can pair decks. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. See how big they are because like yours are probably worth more than mine because I do like the lower value ones. I feel like you were headed somewhere else, and then you. I was not. I was not, nope. No, it's not about the size. It's like what you can do with it. Mhm. That's what somebody with a crappy deck would say is that the size doesn't matter. Crappy deck. I don't know, you can say crappy deck. Here's what we should do later. After this, we will, uh, do a battle. We'll screen record it, and then we'll come out ahead. That's happening. Okay, that'll. Maybe if you stay till the end, we'll put that in the at the very end of the, of the of the YouTube podcast. And if you don't, I hope you wake up to flat tires. So that's on you. I didn't do it. I don't even have a knife.

All right. So I saw something, um, here recently, a commercial. And it immediately reminded me of something from when I was a kid that was very near and dear to my heart. It was the jets being locked in the basement. Um, trauma makes you funny, I guess, but. Um, it was on commercial and, um, it covered basically like how they have doctors now, like telehealth doctors and they prescriptions like, I don't know if they send it to like your local store or they just mail it to you. But then again, if I'm sick, I'm not waiting two days for free Amazon Prime, you know what I mean? Like I want it now. But regardless, it's like now we're in this like telehealth age, you know what I mean? And that's pretty wild. It's the Jetsons. Like it's one hundred percent the Jetsons. Yes. Right. Like everything goes back to The Jetsons after twenty twenty. It's, it's crazy to me. Like it, things are getting so much like, okay, the, the robot made like people are trying to make these things right now. And it's, and it's creepy. We have a robot vacuum that I named Rosie because of the Jetsons. They're not very smart, though. Those things are pretty stupid. Super dumb. Uh, at least I, I remember hearing somebody said they had, there's like going about their business at their house and they come home and the dog had like dumped in the house and it was just smearing, like smearing it like in patterns all over their house. Oh, I'd be so pissed. Oh, God, I'd be so rosy. That's not. That's not dirt. That'd be awesome. There's a Jetsons episode where she's just smearing feces everywhere. Everywhere? Oh, you didn't know his name was Astro, did you? I absolutely did, you're an idiot. What's the dad's name? George. Good job. What? Okay, I don't know the mom's name. Is it Mary? Uh, Jane. Jane, stop this crazy thing on the treadmill. I mean, they didn't think about the crazy names that we were going to have in the future. They named him George and Jane. Like. Like Brogan and Blake and like that. Hilarious. Back in the day. Like, this is Brogan and Brogan. Jetson is like, God, they are good. They were really good. Yeah. Nothing against your name if it's Brogan or anything like that. But I'm just saying it's Brogan and Blake. You guys are awesome. Yeah.

Um, um, check out our, uh, Patreon and, give us that shouted you out, guys. But yeah, um, for real though, like it makes me wonder, like, what's like, what's the next step in like the Jetsons that we can look forward to? Oh man, I would need to watch some episodes, but I mean, they're trying to do the whole flying cars thing, you know, like these drones that are like single person, like drones that fly themselves. Like that's already an introduced thing. Really? Yeah. I mean, so we speaking of drones, like we were driving down to Texas. Uh, we were, huh? We were, you were not us. Oh, okay. Okay, good. I was like, I don't remember this at all. Yeah. Well, you know, roofies, um, the I was driving. Fun time. Okay. Um, no, the family, we were going down to Texas, um, for my birthday, actually. Yeah. That's right. And that we saw so many drones in the air when we got to Texas, like we thought they were airplanes and we kept, they kept just like being right where we were. There was so many at one time, I think we caught eight at one time in the air. It was nuts. That's wild. I don't know what they were doing. I think there was probably a military base there or something. But yeah, drones are crazy. And like a single person drone, a flying car. That's that's that sounds wild, doesn't it? Yeah. For sure.

So here's an interesting fact. When I was in the Army, my job started as air defense. Like in general, high short range, all that. And then they decided to split it to short and high range. And I stayed short range. And, uh, how crazy would it be if that was my job in the Army right now? I'd be like, shooting down drones. You'd be shooting them down? Yeah. Did you fly drones? No, he just can't talk about it. But I think he did. No, that's for another. Okay. But, yeah, I'm looking forward to some of this more future stuff from The Jetsons. I mean, it part of it sounds scary, but at the same time, it's like, man, there's a lot of really cool stuff. Like Amazon is about like dropping off packages with drones and stuff like that now too. So, um, man, I mean, have you seen the chick fil A robot that just brings your food in on the wheels. Like, does it look like Jesus? No, because it's Jesus chicken. Really? It makes sense. No, it makes sense. What is. No, it is not. It looks like a little. Thank you, robot. Jesus. My pleasure. He has to say my pleasure every time, or he gets fired. Yeah he does. Robot Jesus just gets the game. Oh, yeah. To the landfill. I have no idea what we're even talking about anymore. Who knows?

But, um. Yeah, Jetsons like that really made me want to watch the Jetsons, though. Like, I want to go back and watch, like, every episode now just to be like, see, but I think you need to watch if you want to know the future. You know what it is? The suits. What what? Go ahead. Why you went there? I don't know, I've been watching suits and I just dropped it on. It's so good. Yes, it was so good when it came out on USA. And I watched it and nobody cared. Yeah, it's really good. Everybody's watching it because it's on Netflix and everybody's talking about it. I'm like, guys, I watched that ten years ago. And yes, Harvey's awesome. Harvey is awesome. Yes. And then I watched Meghan Markle turn into a princess and leave the show. Oh, yeah. She's royal now. That's wild. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm like, she's royalty. She's kissing this dude. What are you doing? No, that was coming when she was on the show. But The Simpsons would have told you. Yes, the Simpsons is crazy with some of the stuff that they have. It is pretty crazy, but I feel like they've just done so much random crap. Yeah, you know, you can't take every single episode and be like, oh man, this is the future. It's like, right. Yeah. What has it been on twenty seven years or something? Yeah. It's like something's just going to stick, you know? I mean, they're just throwing anything out there that they can and it's like something's going to hit. Right. I agree. Yeah.

Um, some conspiracies. I love conspiracies, cartridge conspiracy, like just gaming conspiracies in general. Like I remember, I remember back in school, I got my NES when I was, I think I got it when I was five, but you know, you played that thing forever until the super NES came out. And so I remember in school people talking about, um, or the question was, can you jump over the flag at the end of level one in Mario Bros. In the original Super Mario Brothers or absolutely not. You can't. I don't know, I'm just saying no because I've never seen it. I always thought no. Two and then I was doing some research today on this, trying to figure it out. No. And you can. But the thing about it is I think it was fake. You can definitely jump over in level three dash three. You can jump over the flag there. It's like that big brick one where like, I don't remember the level, but um, the answer was always bullcrap. No, you can't in school. But the first, the first level, the very first level, I saw a guy jump over that today on a video. You're a liar and it's fake. So that's what I'm I was like, dude, really? Like, I think you photoshopped that.

I just heard, that there is a Nintendo sixty four emulator. It's called a mini sixty four Pi, so I don't know if you know what a Raspberry Pi. Yeah, of course I do. Yeah, I'm super techie, right? Super nerdy. Um, so it's a you can you build it yourself? So there's this little case that looks just like an N64. Okay. And then you build it with a Raspberry Pi and it's, it's an emulator. So it's not just in sixty four games, but it has an N64 emulator also. Okay. And then you can use your old N64 controllers. If you shout out sponsor, uh, eight bit, do they make a, they make a USB or Bluetooth so they, you know, you had that rumble pack that you could plug into the back of the Nintendo sixty four by immersion or. Yeah, not immersion. No, it was different than that. This immersion wasn't out yet. Oh, okay. So why didn't they sue immersion. Oh for ninety seven point two million or twenty million? If only we could go back and ask them. Maybe it was immersion that made it. I don't know. I, I, I didn't do any research on that. Maybe a rumble pack? Yeah. That thing for the N64. Yeah. The big old pack you put. Yeah. You put it in the back of it and it would make it shake. Yeah. Well that eight bit do makes a thing that plugs into that port on the back of the N64 controller and it turns into a Bluetooth controller. And then that connects to this little mini N64. That's crazy. Yeah. We need to get them and play games. That's wild. We should look into that. It's got its yeah.

Speaking of which that that would allow me to test another conspiracy. I saw a video where they're like, hey, you can get, uh, Luigi and Wario in Mario sixty four. And I'm like, what? That game several times did all the secret stuff. I think I even had the book that told you how to do everything. Mario Party sixty four. No. Mario sixty four. Yeah. Mario. Mario sixty four. Mario World sixty four. Yes. That one the the first 3D one. Right? Where you go all over the place, throw the penguin over the, the mountain. Yeah. You went into the pictures in the castle. Yeah. Yeah. So they said you can unlock Luigi and Mario. Yeah. And I'm like, there's, that's got to be fake or an emulator that, you know, just let you added it afterwards. But I mean, it looked legit. The clip I saw like it, it looked realistic. So I don't know, people are just good at faking this stuff or I don't know, but there's only one way to find out. Like, we gotta, we gotta get this, this Bluetooth back and, and make it happen. I guess we gotta get a N64 Pi. Yeah. Well, I mean, for the tens of listeners, if you have a conspiracy, let us know. We'll dig into it, see if we can figure out the truth. Yeah, I don't know if there's a whole lot of game conspiracies, but I think there's a lot. Okay, I guess we'll I was able to do this thing and everybody says you can't because you cheated or I don't know. We'll see.

Yeah, like beating Aladdin. Nobody just beat Aladdin, the Lion King. It's not happening. Yeah. Unless you're playing it like on the switch or something you like. Rewind it, you know, so you don't die. Oh, see? But is that cheating if they give you the ability, I mean. Yeah. You have the ability to go date somebody right now. And I'm pretty sure your wife would think that was cheating. Touche, dude. All right, all right. One thing that I thought would be fun that is game related. Um, I got to thinking about what life would be or how you would be ranked special attributes. Like if Madden was in real life, like, you know, like you being a tech guy, you're like, yeah, I'm a, I'm a ninety seven overall tech guy. You know what I mean? Like, do you, do you think you have and you would tell me like you're a ninety nine at being funny and I think you're a seven. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I get it. I got like three people that think I'm funny at least. So maybe it'd be higher than the seven for sure. I mean, it sounds like it'd be a three, but they think I'm a ninety. So like the math, I don't yeah, I don't math. Well, yeah. Or spell like you would be like a six on spelling out of like the puzzle I am. I might be lower than that. There's a very good chance. Yeah. Like you spell six and it'd be wrong. Yes. And spell checks my best friend. Like, I sure hope so because I can't even imagine everything that I type in word. Yeah. This guy, we go we go for lunch today and he shows me like something he had on his phone and it was ramen, but it was like r o m e n. I'm not Roman smells bad because that. Yeah, I was like, and that's what I that's what I told my wife. I was like, there's some other idiot out there who's like, Roman for ramen. Yeah. Beer or ramen, by the way. Very good. Yeah. So good, so good. Yeah. We had some amazing food today for lunch. But yeah, I found that pretty funny though. You sent it to me and I was like, yeah, that makes sense. Typical IT stuff. I feel like I'm pretty good at that. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

But like cooking for you, you're good. Yeah, I, I, I would be up there a little bit in cooking, but, um, man, kind of makes you self-conscious though. You start thinking like, what am I as a dad? Like what, what is, what is, uh, what are my kids getting? Yeah, yeah. Dang, we should do that. That should be a segment. Like if you could rate me out of ninety nine as a dad, like, what would it be? But then they're going to say something like eighteen and you're like, kind of want to leave you guys now. Yeah. Like what? Yeah. That's interesting. I don't know if I want to know. Yeah. What do you think the age is to like, drop off kids at the the fire station anymore? Do people still do that? What are you talking about? Like how people used to drop off babies at the fire station. Like, is there like an age gap? Like, well, this one's sixteen, but take them. Yeah. I mean, I think sixteen like he at least he could get a job. You guys hiring because I don't want him anymore. He's I'm done with him. MM. I don't know man. We're gonna have to think about these Madden ratings thing. We're gonna we're gonna come back as we, like, unlock new abilities and things like that, right? Yeah. Like, uh, yeah, like, I'll do a project this weekend that, you know, and I'm like, oh, now I was a zero. Now I kind of know how to do that. I'm, I'm kind of like a seventeen. Yeah. I'm a forty three at wallpaper right now because, you know, your whole house is covered in wallpaper, right? I feel like that's pretty crazy. Better than that. Yeah. So you're probably you're probably getting it down pretty well. Getting it. Yeah, that's a good one.

I just hooked up a monitor by myself, and, um, I hooked it up myself. I walked you through that whole process. I hooked it up myself, and then you had to do some googling to tell me how to make my Mac see it differently. This guy's a Mac, a Mac guy. But he's like, I don't know how to not make it mirror. And I'm like, I've literally never added another monitor to it. And he's going to talk bad about my Mac when his computer shuts down at least three times. It never happened. Nobody will know. Huh? Never know. It did shut down. I don't know what's wrong with this thing, but. Yeah. Shout out Dell. Oh, I don't know if I can do that. I don't know if that's. Cease and desist. Cease and desist. Cease and assist. HMM. What is it? Cease and desist. Desist. Yeah. Assist. Like, stop and help. It's like what you're saying. Stop and assist me. What? You use that word actually, though. Like that's the only time that words ever said. Um. I think when you're being sued, like, uh, that's a big part of it. You know what I mean? Like, if I just start doing a bunch of like Disney quotes and throwing up a bunch of like Disney stuff, they're gonna be like, yeah, you can't do that. No, I get it. All I'm saying is that's the only time in the English language that that word is ever used. Desist. Yeah. Like you're probably right, bro. You're not being helpful. Yeah. Just stop what you're doing. That's what it should say. Just stop. Stop it.

Now, one thing I will say that like really pissed me off today. And I don't know if it's just me. I'm hoping it's not just me, but I'm going to work and I'm like, dude, I'm gonna go grab a coffee real quick from Starbucks. I absolutely hate like in maps where it doesn't say, yeah, this is a Starbucks, but it's inside of a Dillons or it's inside of a, you know, whatever. So like I went to two different Starbucks like, oh, screw this, this one's at WSU College. You know, I'm not going in there, not know where places are in the big town all the time. I mean, it's Wichita, dude. And then I went to another one. It's like, okay, it's over here. I'm looking around like I don't see it. And I see Dillons. I'm like, oh God, I hate you. You just couldn't get out of the truck and go in there. No, I was mad. I left and I was like, I'm just going to work. So I get up to like, uh, like twenty first in rock or something. And there's like one right here on the corner. I'm like, okay, you pulled in. Yeah, we've got social pages all over the place, all of the social pages. We're, we're posting clips for you guys to see. We'll post clips of this before the episode comes out. We're going to try to get episodes out on Tuesdays. Yeah, right. Something to look forward to because Monday sucks. You know, it's like, man, I'm getting a step closer to Friday. At least let me listen to this, you know, fifteen, twenty minute whatever. Yeah. Nonsense, nonsense. Just kind of chill in the car while you're driving to work. Mhm. Download it and let it play. Uh, watch it at lunch. Forget about how bad life sucks for a minute. Laugh with us. Yeah, we might be serious sometimes, but I don't know, maybe. See, that's kind of tough. Yeah. It is. It's ridiculous. We get together. We're not serious very often. No, but. Yeah. So. Cartridge last week I messed it up. So don't listen to last week's, uh, website. Yeah, it's cartridge and quest dot com. Good. And then all the socials are cartridge and quest don't have. Yeah. You got a, you're adding the A in there and it's cartridge and quest. Yeah. On all the socials and the website. So Facebook, Facebook for yeah. Facebook immediately said, no thank you. We do not want you on our platform. I've never seen Facebook like, yeah, yeah. Like they were like, nope, sorry, this is not okay. That sounds boring and stupid. Get out of here.